I would like to read the code for these drivers and am not sure where the code for them is. If someone can send me the directory that would be great as I am not sure where the code is. Thanks Nick
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Nick Krause <xerofoify@gmail.com> wrote:
I would like to read the code for these drivers and am not sure where
which drivers?
the code for them is. If someone can send me the directory that would be great as I am not
which directory?
sure where the code is. Thanks Nick
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Hi, On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Nick Krause <xerofoify@gmail.com> wrote:
I would like to read the code for these drivers and am not sure where the code for them is. If someone can send me the directory that would be great as I am not sure where the code is. Rather than just dropping a mail if you would have googled it you would have found the required answers which you wanted.
[1] http://beagleboard.org/linux [2] http://pandaboard.org/content/resources/home Regards, --Prabhakar
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Prabhakar Lad <prabhakar.csengg@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Nick Krause <xerofoify@gmail.com> wrote:
I would like to read the code for these drivers and am not sure where the code for them is. If someone can send me the directory that would be great as I am not sure where the code is. Rather than just dropping a mail if you would have googled it you would have found the required answers which you wanted.
[1] http://beagleboard.org/linux [2] http://pandaboard.org/content/resources/home
Regards, --Prabhakar Thanks Prabhakar, I wasn't curious about their own custom kernels but the main line kernel. Cheers Nick
Hi Nick, On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Nick Krause <xerofoify@gmail.com> wrote:
I would like to read the code for these drivers and am not sure where the code for them is. If someone can send me the directory that would be great as I am not sure where the code is.
You're going to find that the drivers are spread out around the tree (well mosstly in the drivers tree) The way I would go about this is to build a kernel for the board in question. Make sure it has all of the drivers installed. Then go and look in your build tree. There will be a .o file for each source file that was compiled into the kernel (or made into a module). Then you'll know exactly which source files were actually compiled into the kernel that you built. Once you understand how .config files work, you can also figure out which source files would be compiled, but you can leave that for later. -- Dave Hylands Shuswap, BC, Canada http://www.davehylands.com
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Dave Hylands <dhylands@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Nick,
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Nick Krause <xerofoify@gmail.com> wrote:
I would like to read the code for these drivers and am not sure where the code for them is. If someone can send me the directory that would be great as I am not sure where the code is.
You're going to find that the drivers are spread out around the tree (well mosstly in the drivers tree)
The way I would go about this is to build a kernel for the board in question. Make sure it has all of the drivers installed.
Then go and look in your build tree. There will be a .o file for each source file that was compiled into the kernel (or made into a module).
Then you'll know exactly which source files were actually compiled into the kernel that you built.
Once you understand how .config files work, you can also figure out which source files would be compiled, but you can leave that for later.
-- Dave Hylands Shuswap, BC, Canada http://www.davehylands.com The issue isn't that I could do that if I HAD the board that's why I am asking, otherwise I would do this on my own. Nick
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Nick Krause <xerofoify@gmail.com> wrote:
The issue isn't that I could do that if I HAD the board that's why I am asking, otherwise I would do this on my own.
You are going about *all* of this the wrong way, again. This is like saying 'I want to be the next greatest iOS developer' and not even owning a Mac or an iPhone/iPad. You *need* hardware for whatever you are going to work on. Heed all the advice that has already been shoveled your way, both on this topic and Linux in general. But hey, what do I know. Maybe you can visualize all that code and how it works in your head. Myself and many others aren't skilled enough to do that, and need physical hardware in front of us to understand how things work (plus we also like to test code before we give it to others).
Hey Nick,
The issue isn't that I could do that if I HAD the board that's why I am asking, otherwise I would do this on my own.
You don't need the board to build the kernel. -- Dave Hylands Shuswap, BC, Canada http://www.davehylands.com
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Dave Hylands <dhylands@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Nick,
The issue isn't that I could do that if I HAD the board that's why I am asking, otherwise I would do this on my own.
You don't need the board to build the kernel.
-- Dave Hylands Shuswap, BC, Canada http://www.davehylands.com
I forget about that thanks Dave. In addition , Brad Rex due to my memory and my Asperger's I am able to do lots of complicated things in my head. Further more I learn really fast in my areas of interest, after my first year of programming I was already have build my own distro of Linux from Scratch, and after my second year was learning how to program embedded bootloaders and the like. I am not lying this is no joke and rather common with how high functioning my As is. Cheers and Thanks Again, Nick P.S. Please take my AS into consideration for my abilities as if you don't most of the things I can do in my head and with some little time will make no sense:)
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Nick Krause <xerofoify@gmail.com> wrote:
I forget about that thanks Dave. In addition , Brad Rex due to my memory and my Asperger's I am able to do lots of complicated things in my head. Further more I learn really fast in my areas of interest, after my first year of programming I was already have build my own distro of Linux from Scratch, and after my second year was learning how to program embedded bootloaders and the like. I am not lying this is no joke and rather common with how high functioning my As is. Cheers and Thanks Again,
My sincerest apologies in not taking into account your abilities. Given your past dialog with both this list and LKML, you can forgive me in not being able to fully grasp what you can and cannot do. Clearly, I'm in the wrong, and myself, and I'm sure many others, have underestimated what you bring to the table. I wish you the best of luck working on Linux ARM-based processors without hardware in hand. My office cube is full of Cortex A-8/9/15 hardware from different manufacturers. I guess I've been doing it wrong all these years. And with that, I'll be leaving this list, just like others have. While I never contributed in direct ways to the list, I did benefit from it, and those learnings came out in the code I created for my customers. I shall miss Valdis' emails: curt, funny, and to the point. Apparently I'm not worthy enough to be working with or on the kernel or it's drivers, as there are others with way more skill than I have that should be leading the charge. My years of working on Android, creating tablets, making IP phones, developing VR glasses, creating car infotainment systems, and just plain using Linux as my development environment were just silly endeavors on my part. PS. Don't bother responding. Your response will be send to /dev/null.
Hi All, Its really sad that many experts on Linux who have guided me and many others like me are leaving this list just because of some people who do not deserve to be on this list. I request them not to take such abrupt steps deriving many of us of their precious guidance and mentor-ship. This list has personally helped me a lot in ways when even days of googling and searching did not work. I know, with people like Nick this becomes very irritating but lets take his mails as spams. I get a feeling that he has been deliberately trying to get on the nerves of many just to damage their intention and gesture of helping others. But provided that this list has helped me so much, I try to put up with his mails I request and pray, none of the experts and even novices and advocates of FOSS whose discussions and questions are so valuable, not to leave this list and consider Nick and his mails as non-existent. Regards, Saket Sinha On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Brad Rex <bradrex@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Nick Krause <xerofoify@gmail.com> wrote:
I forget about that thanks Dave. In addition , Brad Rex due to my memory and my Asperger's I am able to do lots of complicated things in my head. Further more I learn really fast in my areas of interest, after my first year of programming I was already have build my own distro of Linux from Scratch, and after my second year was learning how to program embedded bootloaders and the like. I am not lying this is no joke and rather common with how high functioning my As is. Cheers and Thanks Again,
My sincerest apologies in not taking into account your abilities. Given your past dialog with both this list and LKML, you can forgive me in not being able to fully grasp what you can and cannot do. Clearly, I'm in the wrong, and myself, and I'm sure many others, have underestimated what you bring to the table.
I wish you the best of luck working on Linux ARM-based processors without hardware in hand. My office cube is full of Cortex A-8/9/15 hardware from different manufacturers. I guess I've been doing it wrong all these years.
And with that, I'll be leaving this list, just like others have. While I never contributed in direct ways to the list, I did benefit from it, and those learnings came out in the code I created for my customers. I shall miss Valdis' emails: curt, funny, and to the point. Apparently I'm not worthy enough to be working with or on the kernel or it's drivers, as there are others with way more skill than I have that should be leading the charge. My years of working on Android, creating tablets, making IP phones, developing VR glasses, creating car infotainment systems, and just plain using Linux as my development environment were just silly endeavors on my part.
PS. Don't bother responding. Your response will be send to /dev/null.
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On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Saket Sinha <saket.sinha89@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi All,
Its really sad that many experts on Linux who have guided me and many others like me are leaving this list just because of some people who do not deserve to be on this list.
I request them not to take such abrupt steps deriving many of us of their precious guidance and mentor-ship. This list has personally helped me a lot in ways when even days of googling and searching did not work.
I know, with people like Nick this becomes very irritating but lets take his mails as spams. I get a feeling that he has been deliberately trying to get on the nerves of many just to damage their intention and gesture of helping others.
But provided that this list has helped me so much, I try to put up with his mails I request and pray, none of the experts and even novices and advocates of FOSS whose discussions and questions are so valuable, not to leave this list and consider Nick and his mails as non-existent.
Regards, Saket Sinha
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Brad Rex <bradrex@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Nick Krause <xerofoify@gmail.com> wrote:
I forget about that thanks Dave. In addition , Brad Rex due to my memory and my Asperger's I am able to do lots of complicated things in my head. Further more I learn really fast in my areas of interest, after my first year of programming I was already have build my own distro of Linux from Scratch, and after my second year was learning how to program embedded bootloaders and the like. I am not lying this is no joke and rather common with how high functioning my As is. Cheers and Thanks Again,
My sincerest apologies in not taking into account your abilities. Given your past dialog with both this list and LKML, you can forgive me in not being able to fully grasp what you can and cannot do. Clearly, I'm in the wrong, and myself, and I'm sure many others, have underestimated what you bring to the table.
I wish you the best of luck working on Linux ARM-based processors without hardware in hand. My office cube is full of Cortex A-8/9/15 hardware from different manufacturers. I guess I've been doing it wrong all these years.
And with that, I'll be leaving this list, just like others have. While I never contributed in direct ways to the list, I did benefit from it, and those learnings came out in the code I created for my customers. I shall miss Valdis' emails: curt, funny, and to the point. Apparently I'm not worthy enough to be working with or on the kernel or it's drivers, as there are others with way more skill than I have that should be leading the charge. My years of working on Android, creating tablets, making IP phones, developing VR glasses, creating car infotainment systems, and just plain using Linux as my development environment were just silly endeavors on my part.
PS. Don't bother responding. Your response will be send to /dev/null.
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Look Saket, I asked a valid question and after he turned it into I was trying to get to back but with bad questions and should have the hard ware for testing. Regards Nick
Dear all, Unfortunately the real sad thing is that a lot of "experts" think that it's much better to write "I'm tired of this, I'm quitting" and bang the door, rather then just ignore spam. Are you the first day in the internet? There are tons of trolls and weird people. And what? Are you quitting of it? You don't like somebody? Fucking ignore him. Or read the man page of whatever mail client you use to write redirect rule for all the mails you don't like to the trash. All these mails about Nick and quitting the list sounds like "Oh, God, there are tons of spam emails in my mail box. I'm quitting of using mail". The last obvious thing if nobody will respond to whoever you want to get rid off he will disappear himself. This technique is cold "Stop feeding the troll". Sincerely, Your captain. -- wbr, rush. 18.08.2014, 08:17, "Saket Sinha" <saket.sinha89@gmail.com>:
Hi All,
Its really sad that many experts on Linux who have guided me and many others like me are leaving this list just because of some people who do not deserve to be on this list.
I request them not to take such abrupt steps deriving many of us of their precious guidance and mentor-ship. This list has personally helped me a lot in ways when even days of googling and searching did not work.
I know, with people like Nick this becomes very irritating but lets take his mails as spams. I get a feeling that he has been deliberately trying to get on the nerves of many just to damage their intention and gesture of helping others.
But provided that this list has helped me so much, I try to put up with his mails I request and pray, none of the experts and even novices and advocates of FOSS whose discussions and questions are so valuable, not to leave this list and consider Nick and his mails as non-existent.
Regards, Saket Sinha
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Brad Rex <bradrex@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Nick Krause <xerofoify@gmail.com> wrote:
I forget about that thanks Dave. In addition , Brad Rex due to my memory and my Asperger's I am able to do lots of complicated things in my head. Further more I learn really fast in my areas of interest, after my first year of programming I was already have build my own distro of Linux from Scratch, and after my second year was learning how to program embedded bootloaders and the like. I am not lying this is no joke and rather common with how high functioning my As is. Cheers and Thanks Again,
My sincerest apologies in not taking into account your abilities. Given your past dialog with both this list and LKML, you can forgive me in not being able to fully grasp what you can and cannot do. Clearly, I'm in the wrong, and myself, and I'm sure many others, have underestimated what you bring to the table.
I wish you the best of luck working on Linux ARM-based processors without hardware in hand. My office cube is full of Cortex A-8/9/15 hardware from different manufacturers. I guess I've been doing it wrong all these years.
And with that, I'll be leaving this list, just like others have. While I never contributed in direct ways to the list, I did benefit from it, and those learnings came out in the code I created for my customers. I shall miss Valdis' emails: curt, funny, and to the point. Apparently I'm not worthy enough to be working with or on the kernel or it's drivers, as there are others with way more skill than I have that should be leading the charge. My years of working on Android, creating tablets, making IP phones, developing VR glasses, creating car infotainment systems, and just plain using Linux as my development environment were just silly endeavors on my part.
PS. Don't bother responding. Your response will be send to /dev/null.
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Hi, The list is of great importance to me. I always get great ideas from it, even just by hearing the conversation. It is very scary to hear that the experts are leaving! I miss the old, friendly and comfortable environment. Please, stay calm. All the best, Freeman Zhang On 2014-08-18 12:16, Saket Sinha wrote:
Hi All,
Its really sad that many experts on Linux who have guided me and many others like me are leaving this list just because of some people who do not deserve to be on this list.
I request them not to take such abrupt steps deriving many of us of their precious guidance and mentor-ship. This list has personally helped me a lot in ways when even days of googling and searching did not work.
I know, with people like Nick this becomes very irritating but lets take his mails as spams. I get a feeling that he has been deliberately trying to get on the nerves of many just to damage their intention and gesture of helping others.
But provided that this list has helped me so much, I try to put up with his mails I request and pray, none of the experts and even novices and advocates of FOSS whose discussions and questions are so valuable, not to leave this list and consider Nick and his mails as non-existent.
Regards, Saket Sinha
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Brad Rex <bradrex@gmail.com <mailto:bradrex@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Nick Krause <xerofoify@gmail.com <mailto:xerofoify@gmail.com>> wrote:
I forget about that thanks Dave. In addition , Brad Rex due to my memory and my Asperger's I am able to do lots of complicated things in my head. Further more I learn really fast in my areas of interest, after my first year of programming I was already have build my own distro of Linux from Scratch, and after my second year was learning how to program embedded bootloaders and the like. I am not lying this is no joke and rather common with how high functioning my As is. Cheers and Thanks Again,
My sincerest apologies in not taking into account your abilities. Given your past dialog with both this list and LKML, you can forgive me in not being able to fully grasp what you can and cannot do. Clearly, I'm in the wrong, and myself, and I'm sure many others, have underestimated what you bring to the table.
I wish you the best of luck working on Linux ARM-based processors without hardware in hand. My office cube is full of Cortex A-8/9/15 hardware from different manufacturers. I guess I've been doing it wrong all these years.
And with that, I'll be leaving this list, just like others have. While I never contributed in direct ways to the list, I did benefit from it, and those learnings came out in the code I created for my customers. I shall miss Valdis' emails: curt, funny, and to the point. Apparently I'm not worthy enough to be working with or on the kernel or it's drivers, as there are others with way more skill than I have that should be leading the charge. My years of working on Android, creating tablets, making IP phones, developing VR glasses, creating car infotainment systems, and just plain using Linux as my development environment were just silly endeavors on my part.
PS. Don't bother responding. Your response will be send to /dev/null.
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Rather than quitting the list and denying others access to the vast knowledge-base, i beg everyone to kindly update their spam filters (even for kernel-newbies mails) to ignore the unfortunate spam in recent times. Personally, i have been relentless clicking the "Report Spam" button in GMAIL for EVERY "SPAM" i receive. Now i receive ONLY the non-spam mails to kernel-newbies in my inbox. Let us continue responding to the rest of the genuine questions to completely drown out the SPAM. Thanks CVS
I cant understand why is there such a outrage against Nick. If you dont want to answer or find the question wrong please dont answer. Why reply with banners and bad remarks against a guy who is new to linux kernel development. I understand some of the questions might be naive but i think we should not be derogatory to others. On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Chinmay V S <cvs268@gmail.com> wrote:
Rather than quitting the list and denying others access to the vast knowledge-base, i beg everyone to kindly update their spam filters (even for kernel-newbies mails) to ignore the unfortunate spam in recent times. Personally, i have been relentless clicking the "Report Spam" button in GMAIL for EVERY "SPAM" i receive. Now i receive ONLY the non-spam mails to kernel-newbies in my inbox.
Let us continue responding to the rest of the genuine questions to completely drown out the SPAM.
Thanks CVS
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On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:58 PM, ankur dwivedi <ankurengg2003@gmail.com> wrote:
I cant understand why is there such a outrage against Nick. If you dont want to answer or find the question wrong please dont answer. Why reply with banners and bad remarks against a guy who is new to linux kernel development. I understand some of the questions might be naive but i think we should not be derogatory to others.
@Ankur, I completely agree with you. We should not be derogatory to others. I DO feel bad about what i did. I am not one to jump the gun to criticise someone; But i draw the line now that we see people(good people) leaving the list JUST because here is a person who has not made a single positive contribution and one who refuses to listen to what is repeatedly told to him - 1. To Google 2. To Read and 3. NOT to force his opinions on others (i.e NOT to contribute, NOT to reply simply to justify his actions and NOT to do anything else before doing 1 and 2). Dogfooding my own advise above gave me http://youtu.be/Q52kFL8zVoM How Open Source Projects Survive Poisonous People (And You Can Too) Summary(for the bandwidth/time constrained) - People are poisonous unintentionally more often than not. - Good etiquette: - Avoid action paralysis. Stop asking; Stop trying to get it perfect. There is no try, Do. - Stop arguing with counter-opinions; Go ahead and DO it. SHARE it. THEN discuss it. - Do NOT monopolise threads by filibustering. - Do NOT be a lone-ranger pushing your opinion with every alternate reply in a thread. -CVS <start_of_keyboard_diarrhea> PS: One good i see coming out of this is that a lot of newcomers to the list are getting to read carefully-worded guidelines that describe ALL the things **NOT** to do here. PPS: Do you see why this is poisonous? How we ended-up spending our time and other people's attentions WITHOUT actually contributing a SINGLE thing to the technical discussion. PPPS: Can a moderator step-in and send in a consensus email that summarises what we do about this - something? anything? nothing? (if "nothing" then this is a democracy and everyone is free to do as they please and in due time we will tend to reach an unofficial consensus regarding how we deal with such behaviour here.) <End_of_keyboard_diarrhea>
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