Help with btrfs project

[Nick Krause]

On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Nick Krause <xerofoify at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Lidza Louina <lidza.louina at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I agree with Jason.
>>
>> I do want Nick to learn the kernel (anyone who wants to learn should
>> be able to and we're always looking for new developers) but most of us
>> don't have the time or training to be able to help him. Learning via
>> email seems to be a very bad medium for him to get a kernel education.
>> Emails already take away the human element from communicating (tone of
>> voice, facial expressions, etc), and on top of that he has this
>> disorder. I really believe that if he finds someone to act as a middle
>> man between him and the kernel making sure that he understands our
>> emails (to the best of his ability), will help tremendously. I'm sure
>> he's smart enough and earnest, but his Asperger's is making this very
>> difficult for everyone.
>>
>> Hopefully once a system that works for him is set in place, he can
>> tell us what is working for him and the kernel could learn how to
>> better interact with people with communication disorders and others
>> with Autism.
>>
>> Lidza
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Mandeep Sandhu
>> <mandeepsandhu.chd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Agree with Jason here.
>>>
>>> If you don't find his questions palatable, just _ignore_ them instead
>>> of sending rants and sarcastic emails which just wastes more of your
>>> own time. That way the SNR of this list will improve! :)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Jason Conklin <jason.conklin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Guys, stop it. Nick has told us he has Asperger syndrome; as such, he
>>>> is not likely to understand facetious or flippant remarks for what
>>>> they are. The time you've spent responding to Nick's emails would be
>>>> much better used reading a little about autism spectrum disorders
>>>> [1,2] and the kinds of difficulty and confusion they cause in more
>>>> normal ("neurotypical") contexts, for both AS people and the people
>>>> they interact with. Otherwise, just move on.
>>>>
>>>> I am not a psychologist or an expert on autism spectrum disorders, but
>>>> I know enough to recognize that his behavior on this and other lists
>>>> is consistent with several aspects of those disorders. The sad thing
>>>> is that he's getting treated as a malicious troll or a fool, when it's
>>>> pretty clear (to me, anyway) that he's fascinated by the kernel and
>>>> just trying to learn as well as he knows how.
>>>>
>>>> Without going into autism spectrum intricacies or speculating on
>>>> Nick's particular traits, I'll note that Aspergers is "characterized
>>>> by significant difficulties in social interaction and nonverbal
>>>> communication" (from Wikipedia) -- which we have seen repeatedly in
>>>> Nick's frequently inappropriate and unresearched questions and
>>>> misunderstanding/misuse of the good advice he has received.
>>>>
>>>> The resulting frustration is understandable. I acknowledge that the
>>>> format of this and especially the working kernel lists is simply not
>>>> equipped to handle Nick's sort of engagement. The best practice, if
>>>> you're frustrated by Nick's emails, is probably to follow the protocol
>>>> for feeding trolls -- ie, don't -- even though his motivations are
>>>> different from what I'd consider a "real" troll's. You simply cannot
>>>> expect him to respond (neuro)typically to your input.
>>>>
>>>> I don't intend to discuss this here anymore, but I really hope the
>>>> above can provide a little context to help the community make more
>>>> fruitful decisions in response to Nick's questions, or at least temper
>>>> your frustrations.
>>>>
>>>> Jason Conklin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://bit.ly/1odpfrd (Wikipedia: Autism spectrum)
>>>>
>>>> [2] http://bit.ly/1rmgrHg (Wikipedia: Asperger syndrome)
>>>>
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> The issue isn't the emails, it's that I am not custom to working in
> a high level programming environment. If someone just explains
> what I should not do in a written list of rules, I should be fine :).
> Nick
In addition it's now not considered a disability most medical professionals
consider it a huge advantage.
Nick