Bad Patches and Issues with other devolopers

[Nick Krause]

On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:58 PM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu> wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Aug 2014 10:48:14 +0100, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar said:
>
>> oh man you have gained prominence in vger?
>> They have banned you from vger.
>
> Wow. I've been around for a dozen years or so, and can't remember *that* ever
> happening before. That takes some *major* doing, and could take literally years
> to straighten out.  How to approach that?
>
> 0) Nick can't screw up again. *AT ALL*. Patches have to be clean and correct on
> the first try, and posting something stupid or failing to listen and implement
> maintainer suggestions will probably be fatal.  Yes, that *does* mean that
> posting a "great new idea" that's half-baked or worse will probably be fatal,
> which means you should bounce the idea off several other people who actually
> know the kernel.  I see a *lot* of "this would be great if" ideas that aren't
> actually good ideas - either the kernel would have to be majorly re-written for
> little gain, or the idea is contrary to the way things are done in the kernel,
> or there's hidden reasons we don't already do it...
>
> 1) Pick *one* (or at most two) sub-lists, subscribe, and *SHUT UP AND READ*.
> Resist the temptation to post anything.  Learn.  Pay attention to the
> maintainer's comments on other patches - this is how you learn what they want
> to see in a patch, and what they *don't* want to see.
>
> 2) Once you get an actual handle on what's considered a "good" patch series
> for that section of the kernel, *then* start thinking about small patches.
>
> 3) Before sending the first few patches, *review* them. Test compile them. Test
> boot them.  E-mail them to yourself, and make sure they apply.  Have somebody
> else look at them off-list first, to make sure you didn't do something stupid.
> Do everything possible to make sure it's *RIGHT* the first time it hits the
> sub-list.
>
> After 3-4 years of this, and the start of a record of having correct patches,
> the powers that be might consider un-doing a ban....

So I assume I am up the list for a while then.
Regards Nick