Help with btrfs project

[Lidza Louina]

I agree with Jason.

I do want Nick to learn the kernel (anyone who wants to learn should
be able to and we're always looking for new developers) but most of us
don't have the time or training to be able to help him. Learning via
email seems to be a very bad medium for him to get a kernel education.
Emails already take away the human element from communicating (tone of
voice, facial expressions, etc), and on top of that he has this
disorder. I really believe that if he finds someone to act as a middle
man between him and the kernel making sure that he understands our
emails (to the best of his ability), will help tremendously. I'm sure
he's smart enough and earnest, but his Asperger's is making this very
difficult for everyone.

Hopefully once a system that works for him is set in place, he can
tell us what is working for him and the kernel could learn how to
better interact with people with communication disorders and others
with Autism.

Lidza

On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Mandeep Sandhu
<mandeepsandhu.chd at gmail.com> wrote:
> Agree with Jason here.
>
> If you don't find his questions palatable, just _ignore_ them instead
> of sending rants and sarcastic emails which just wastes more of your
> own time. That way the SNR of this list will improve! :)
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Jason Conklin <jason.conklin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Guys, stop it. Nick has told us he has Asperger syndrome; as such, he
>> is not likely to understand facetious or flippant remarks for what
>> they are. The time you've spent responding to Nick's emails would be
>> much better used reading a little about autism spectrum disorders
>> [1,2] and the kinds of difficulty and confusion they cause in more
>> normal ("neurotypical") contexts, for both AS people and the people
>> they interact with. Otherwise, just move on.
>>
>> I am not a psychologist or an expert on autism spectrum disorders, but
>> I know enough to recognize that his behavior on this and other lists
>> is consistent with several aspects of those disorders. The sad thing
>> is that he's getting treated as a malicious troll or a fool, when it's
>> pretty clear (to me, anyway) that he's fascinated by the kernel and
>> just trying to learn as well as he knows how.
>>
>> Without going into autism spectrum intricacies or speculating on
>> Nick's particular traits, I'll note that Aspergers is "characterized
>> by significant difficulties in social interaction and nonverbal
>> communication" (from Wikipedia) -- which we have seen repeatedly in
>> Nick's frequently inappropriate and unresearched questions and
>> misunderstanding/misuse of the good advice he has received.
>>
>> The resulting frustration is understandable. I acknowledge that the
>> format of this and especially the working kernel lists is simply not
>> equipped to handle Nick's sort of engagement. The best practice, if
>> you're frustrated by Nick's emails, is probably to follow the protocol
>> for feeding trolls -- ie, don't -- even though his motivations are
>> different from what I'd consider a "real" troll's. You simply cannot
>> expect him to respond (neuro)typically to your input.
>>
>> I don't intend to discuss this here anymore, but I really hope the
>> above can provide a little context to help the community make more
>> fruitful decisions in response to Nick's questions, or at least temper
>> your frustrations.
>>
>> Jason Conklin
>>
>>
>> [1] http://bit.ly/1odpfrd (Wikipedia: Autism spectrum)
>>
>> [2] http://bit.ly/1rmgrHg (Wikipedia: Asperger syndrome)
>>
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