Hello, does anyone know any university that has lines of research on the linux kernel
Hello, does anyone know any university that has lines of research on the linux kernel Thank you
On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 12:45:11 -0600, Manuel Quintero Fonseca said:
Hello, does anyone know any university that has lines of research on the linux kernel
Well.. most of the actual code development is being done out in industry and by individuals. The stuff that happens in universities is usually more theoretical (new concepts in memory management, etc), and merely *uses* Linux as a platform because it's available. Pretty much nobody is doing any research *on* the Linux kernel as itself (unless it's as a case study in managing large scale software development, or as a data point for code quality metrics and other such things). And there's a difference between "University ABC has a professor who's got this one project that happens to use Linux in it" and "University DEF has 4 professors and 20 grad students who have set up an official Center For Something Research". So if you're looking for grad schools, you want to be looking at things with longevity, like the MIT Media Lab, or Purdue's computer security expertise, or a lot of the stuff being done at CMU or Stanford or Berkeley. It sucks to transfer to a grad school for 3 years, only to have the project you transferred for go away a year later.... (And many of those projects never see the light of day, because they often end up being some variant of "If we measured metric X better, we could do a better job of predicting what to do with Y" - but it often turns out that measuring X better costs more than the added efficiency of Y gains you....)
Additionally, if you're really interested in free software at university, UCLA's Paul Eggert is pretty prolific. So here may be worth considering. - Maria On Sat, Sep 28, 2019, 16:17 Valdis Klētnieks <valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 12:45:11 -0600, Manuel Quintero Fonseca said:
Hello, does anyone know any university that has lines of research on the linux kernel
Well.. most of the actual code development is being done out in industry and by individuals. The stuff that happens in universities is usually more theoretical (new concepts in memory management, etc), and merely *uses* Linux as a platform because it's available. Pretty much nobody is doing any research *on* the Linux kernel as itself (unless it's as a case study in managing large scale software development, or as a data point for code quality metrics and other such things).
And there's a difference between "University ABC has a professor who's got this one project that happens to use Linux in it" and "University DEF has 4 professors and 20 grad students who have set up an official Center For Something Research". So if you're looking for grad schools, you want to be looking at things with longevity, like the MIT Media Lab, or Purdue's computer security expertise, or a lot of the stuff being done at CMU or Stanford or Berkeley. It sucks to transfer to a grad school for 3 years, only to have the project you transferred for go away a year later....
(And many of those projects never see the light of day, because they often end up being some variant of "If we measured metric X better, we could do a better job of predicting what to do with Y" - but it often turns out that measuring X better costs more than the added efficiency of Y gains you....)
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On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 04:16:46PM -0400, Valdis Klētnieks wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 12:45:11 -0600, Manuel Quintero Fonseca said:
Hello, does anyone know any university that has lines of research on the linux kernel
Well.. most of the actual code development is being done out in industry and by individuals. The stuff that happens in universities is usually more theoretical (new concepts in memory management, etc), and merely *uses* Linux as a platform because it's available. Pretty much nobody is doing any research *on* the Linux kernel as itself (unless it's as a case study in managing large scale software development, or as a data point for code quality metrics and other such things).
That's not true, there are lots of universities doing research *on* the Linux kernel, as well as doing research *for* the Linux kernel in order to make it better and to prove/disprove new research theories. One example would be the first talk listed here that happened last week: https://kernel-recipes.org/en/2019/live-blog-day-3-2/ It describes how research is being used to both prove that the kernel's model of operation is correct (he found bugs in it when doing so) as well as to advance the development of formal methods. There are loads of other research projects doing stuff like this all over the world, look at the output of computer science papers for lots of examples of this.
And there's a difference between "University ABC has a professor who's got this one project that happens to use Linux in it" and "University DEF has 4 professors and 20 grad students who have set up an official Center For Something Research". So if you're looking for grad schools, you want to be looking at things with longevity, like the MIT Media Lab, or Purdue's computer security expertise, or a lot of the stuff being done at CMU or Stanford or Berkeley. It sucks to transfer to a grad school for 3 years, only to have the project you transferred for go away a year later....
There are lots of these types of "centers of research" at universities outside of the US as well. Again, look at papers for examples of common groups of professors sponsoring projects for where this is happening. I don't want to slight any by only listing a few :) thanks, greg k-h
Thank you all for answering, my question is, if I want to do a phD that has to do with the Linux kernel, it will be more difficult to be accepted at a university, where they do not have lines of research on Linux, those where they openly have research on The Linux kernel If you have some interesting research topics and that are possible to do for a phD that are very kind to suggest, as well as some universities, preferably that are outside the USA. Thank you
On Thu, 03 Oct 2019 16:09:28 -0600, Manuel Quintero Fonseca said:
Thank you all for answering, my question is, if I want to do a phD that has to do with the Linux kernel, it will be more difficult to be accepted at a university, where they do not have lines of research on Linux, those where they openly have research on The Linux kernel
Getting accepted into a university's PhD program, and getting a thesis project approved, are two very different things. And you still have to figure out if you wanted to do research specifically on the Linux kernel itself, or your topic of interest is something else and Linux is just a useful tool. For example: Using Linux as a basis for testing new ideas in virtual memory management is different from a project studying the Linux memory manager. And since a PhD thesis is supposed to be new original research, you'll have a lot easier time selling a "new ideas in virtual memory management" thesis than "studying existing code" thesis.... So what is it *exactly* that you wanted to do a thesis on?
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