Hello, Today I was asking some suggestions in IRC for my eudyptula challenge (indirectly, because working for it for 1 month). So I am removed from the challenge now. So, who all doing the challenge please do everything yourself by reading the docs, kernel codes or ask little directly. Because, you will feel really bad after removing from challenge, anyway my mistake, I shouldn't have break the integrity. And my mistake was I thought I am smart in asking questions and nobody will get doubt :). So don't do that :). -- Regards Jeshwanth Kumar N K
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 12:35:19AM +0530, Jeshwanth Kumar N K wrote:
Hello,
Today I was asking some suggestions in IRC for my eudyptula challenge (indirectly, because working for it for 1 month). So I am removed from the challenge now.
So, who all doing the challenge please do everything yourself by reading the docs, kernel codes or ask little directly. Because, you will feel really bad after removing from challenge, anyway my mistake, I shouldn't have break the integrity.
And my mistake was I thought I am smart in asking questions and nobody will get doubt :). So don't do that :).
-- Regards Jeshwanth Kumar N K
They clearly state to not ask for help on mailing lists or IRC. But I totally understand the urge too, I've been stuck on a task for quite a few days and have had to resist the urge to ask for help (other than little of course).
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 3:05 AM, Jeshwanth Kumar N K <jeshkumar555@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello,
Today I was asking some suggestions in IRC for my eudyptula challenge (indirectly, because working for it for 1 month). So I am removed from the challenge now.
So, who all doing the challenge please do everything yourself by reading the docs, kernel codes or ask little directly. Because, you will feel really bad after removing from challenge, anyway my mistake, I shouldn't have break the integrity.
And my mistake was I thought I am smart in asking questions and nobody will get doubt :). So don't do that :).
Does not matter, the aim of the whole thing is to learn, and to learn u either search, read, discuss, or ask. Not to solve the problem as the ultimate aim. Internet has tons of resources to learn true, but we always want to do targetted learning, to solve narrow range of problems, and in the fastest, more efficient way. ASK! And like Newton said, his knowledge is built on top of the shoulders of other giants. So please ask, and help value add to others knowledge, and solving Eudyptula Challenge COMPLETELY DOES NOT ACHIEVE THAT GOAL, because everything is hidden and shrouded in secrecy. Just my 2cts....
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Peter Teoh <htmldeveloper@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 3:05 AM, Jeshwanth Kumar N K <jeshkumar555@gmail.com> wrote:
Does not matter, the aim of the whole thing is to learn, and to learn u either search, read, discuss, or ask. Not to solve the problem as the ultimate aim. Internet has tons of resources to learn true, but we always want to do targetted learning, to solve narrow range of problems, and in the fastest, more efficient way. ASK!
if we just ask for each problem then we will just go on asking for all next problems . My personal opinion , first we must try ourselves , then even after trying if we are not able to do it then we have to ask for some hint. for one of the task of the challenge , i have taken almost 2 months to complete it , and i am satisfied of the fact that ultimately i have done it by myself (little will always give some hint in his mails) .
And like Newton said, his knowledge is built on top of the shoulders of other giants. So please ask, and help value add to others knowledge, and solving Eudyptula Challenge COMPLETELY DOES NOT ACHIEVE THAT GOAL, because everything is hidden and shrouded in secrecy.
I believe Eudyptula Challenge is just the starting point where we learn how to do .. and doing the tasks by yourself makes you understand why you are doing that .. and also while doing the tasks yourself we need to read through the documentation , see how other driver codes are doing the same thing .. it has happened to me many times , that after reading the documentation and other driver codes , i found out that the approach was wrong , so again i had to start from the beginning. But the positive side of that failure : i gained the knowledge.
Just my 2cts....
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Am 2014-09-19 21:05, schrieb Jeshwanth Kumar N K:
Hello,
Today I was asking some suggestions in IRC for my eudyptula challenge (indirectly, because working for it for 1 month). So I am removed from the challenge now.
So, who all doing the challenge please do everything yourself by reading the docs, kernel codes or ask little directly. Because, you will feel really bad after removing from challenge, anyway my mistake, I shouldn't have break the integrity.
And my mistake was I thought I am smart in asking questions and nobody will get doubt :). So don't do that :).
I'm stuck at a task now for _months_ (but because of no time for it) and really hope the challenge, little, to continue. That's because patience has been key for previous tasks, and I love to not-fear that the challenge may go away. Have patience and take time to enjoy every task! It's insanely awesome of him / the people to run the callenge and it sucks that they, now, need to go after people who don't follow the rules. Nobody is forced to take the challenge. The challenge is for _free_ (!) and you can _really_ get a lot out of it, if you simply follow the rules and respect what you have in front of you, like a normal grown-up. That's what I think when I read about people trying to ask and cheat anytime, not you in particular. Depending on how far you have come, I'm sorry you can't continue. Don't try to trick anybody. _If_ this was a one-time-thing you regret and you honestly and quietly want to continue, maybe, ask one last time, give reasons. Starting over "anonymously" somehow wouldnt really make you happy, be honest. And little would find out anyways. I know I would hate to be removed, that's motivation enough to stick to my kerneltree and search basic stuff ;) I hope little has fun and finds ways to reduce his own challenge-related workload while being able to keep the challenge alive. thanks, martin
Hi, I just shared this info with kernelnewbies who taken eudyptula challenge not to ask anything in public :). May be learning for others :). May be I loved too much this challenge, today the phrase "You removed from challenge" was always flashing in my mind, thats made me really sad. Thanks little for everything (I can't reach him directly), you made my dream come true "Sending first patch to linux kernel". Hope I will continue learning and contribute to the community whenever I am capable of :). Thanks On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Martin Kepplinger <martink@posteo.de> wrote:
Am 2014-09-19 21:05, schrieb Jeshwanth Kumar N K:
Hello,
Today I was asking some suggestions in IRC for my eudyptula challenge (indirectly, because working for it for 1 month). So I am removed from the challenge now.
So, who all doing the challenge please do everything yourself by reading the docs, kernel codes or ask little directly. Because, you will feel really bad after removing from challenge, anyway my mistake, I shouldn't have break the integrity.
And my mistake was I thought I am smart in asking questions and nobody will get doubt :). So don't do that :).
I'm stuck at a task now for _months_ (but because of no time for it) and really hope the challenge, little, to continue. That's because patience has been key for previous tasks, and I love to not-fear that the challenge may go away. Have patience and take time to enjoy every task!
It's insanely awesome of him / the people to run the callenge and it sucks that they, now, need to go after people who don't follow the rules. Nobody is forced to take the challenge.
The challenge is for _free_ (!) and you can _really_ get a lot out of it, if you simply follow the rules and respect what you have in front of you, like a normal grown-up. That's what I think when I read about people trying to ask and cheat anytime, not you in particular.
Depending on how far you have come, I'm sorry you can't continue. Don't try to trick anybody. _If_ this was a one-time-thing you regret and you honestly and quietly want to continue, maybe, ask one last time, give reasons. Starting over "anonymously" somehow wouldnt really make you happy, be honest. And little would find out anyways.
I know I would hate to be removed, that's motivation enough to stick to my kerneltree and search basic stuff ;)
I hope little has fun and finds ways to reduce his own challenge-related workload while being able to keep the challenge alive.
thanks, martin
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