<div dir="ltr">I sent the previous mail too early!<div><br></div><div>I got it to work for root user by setting "<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">/proc/sys/vm/nr_hugepages" to 20 as suggested in </span><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Documentation/vm/hugetlbpage.</span><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">txt. Now I'm able to mmap it and it reflects the same in /proc/meminfo as well! :)</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">HTH,</span></div><div><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">-mandeep</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Mandeep Sandhu <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mandeepsandhu.chd@gmail.com" target="_blank">mandeepsandhu.chd@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I tried your program and got the same result, i.e "Resource temporarily unavailable" for an ordinary user and "Cannot allocate memory" if run as root.<div>
<br></div><div>However, reading the Huge TLB pages doc (Documentation/vm/hugetlbpage.txt), I saw the following para which might explain the error:</div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">...</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">Once a number of huge pages have been pre-allocated to the kernel huge page</span><br>
</div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">pool, a user with appropriate privilege can use either the mmap system call</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">or shared memory system calls to use the huge pages. See the discussion of</span><br>
</div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">Using Huge Pages, below.</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br>
</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">The administrator can allocate persistent huge pages on the kernel boot</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">command line by specifying the "hugepages=N" parameter, where 'N' = the</span><br>
</div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">number of huge pages requested. This is the most reliable method of</span><br></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">allocating huge pages as memory has not yet become fragmented.</span><br>
</div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">...</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">...</span></div>
<div><pre style="word-wrap:break-word"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">I don't have my kernel booted with it, so that might explain why mmap fails for </font><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">MAP_HUGETLB</span></font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">.</span></pre>
<pre style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I can't restart my machine with the new flag right now, but maybe you can try.</span></pre>
<pre style="word-wrap:break-word"><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">HTH,</span></font></pre><pre style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">-mandeep</span></pre>
<pre style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></pre></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Kevin O'Gorman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kogorman@gmail.com" target="_blank">kogorman@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Now I'm befuddled. I modified the source so that it was easy to try different combinations. If I sudo it, I can map a 1GiB (1<<30) private anonymous region if I sudo the program. I cannot find any combination with MAP_HUGETLB that works at all.<br>
<br></div>Here it is in working form, with an anonymous map and no backing file. The mmap request is for a single byte, so it works for ordinary users Try uncommenting the MAP_HUGETLB line, and I'd love to hear about a version that works, even if it's only for root.<br>
<br></div><div>Since I'm aiming for a huge memory region, I figured HUGETLB would make sense to limit the overhead. <br></div><div><br></div>============================ CUT HERE ================<br>/**<br> * @file<br>
* <pre>"Find out the limits on locked memory"<br> * Last Modified: Mon Aug 18 11:21:23 PDT 2014<br> * @author Kevin O'Gorman<br> */<br><br>#define _GNU_SOURCE /* enable some of the mmap flags */<br>#include <unistd.h><br>
#include <stdlib.h><br>#include <stdio.h><br>#include <string.h><br>#include <sys/mman.h><br><br>/* for getrlimit(2) */<br>#include <sys/time.h><br>#include <sys/resource.h><br><br>/* for open(2) */<br>
#include <sys/types.h><br>#include <sys/stat.h><br>#include <sys/fcntl.h><br><br>int<br>main(int argc, char *argv[])<br>{<br> void *where;<br> size_t length = 1;<br> struct rlimit rlim;<br> int flags = 0;<br>
int fd = -1;<br><br>// fd = open("solvedtaq", O_RDWR); if (fd == -1) perror("open");<br> printf("fd is %d\n", fd);<br><br>// flags |= MAP_HUGETLB;<br> flags |= MAP_PRIVATE;<br> flags |= MAP_LOCKED;<br>
flags |= MAP_ANONYMOUS;<br><br> if (getrlimit(RLIMIT_MEMLOCK, &rlim) == 0) {<br> printf("RLIMIT_MEMLOCK: hard: %lld, soft: %lld\n", (long long)rlim.rlim_max, (long long)rlim.rlim_cur);<br> } else {<br>
perror("getrlimit failed");<br> }<br><br> where = mmap(NULL, length, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, flags, fd, 0);<br> if (where != MAP_FAILED) {<br> printf("Mapped at %p\n", where);<br> } else {<br>
perror("Mapping failed");<br> }<br> <br> return EXIT_SUCCESS;<br>}<br>============================ CUT HERE ================<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Kevin O'Gorman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kogorman@gmail.com" target="_blank">kogorman@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:46 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu" target="_blank">Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 08:15:12 -0700, "Kevin O'Gorman" said:<br>
<br>
> maybe someone here can help me figure out how to map a big (really big)<br>
> work area and lock it in memory.<br>
<br>
</div>What problem are you trying to solve by doing this? It usually doesn't make<br>
sense to lock more than a small chunk in memory - that's mostly for crypto<br>
programs like PGP that are paranoid about keys being written to swap spaces,<br>
and a *very* few highly performance oriented programs. 99.8% of the time,<br>
the kernel will do a reasonable job of making sure the right pages are in<br>
memory.<br>
<br>
Plus, programmers almost always over-estimate what they *really* need to lock<br>
down. The end result is that performance ends up being *worse*, because they<br>
lock out more than needed, leaving all the rest of the processes on the system<br>
fighting over a too-small pool of pages. Really sucks when you actually have<br>
to read from disk every I/O because you no longer have an in-core file cache :)<br>
<div><br></div></blockquote></div><div>I'm solving a huge alpha-beta search problem, and want a huge cache table tocheck permutations. That's why I increased RAM from 8 to 32 GB, and would<br>be happy to use the extra 24GB all for the cache. (Cache table is like a hash table but with collisions causing replacement rather than chaining).<br>
<br></div><div>Even in my small tests, the cache is giving me speedups in the neighborhood of<br></div><div>a million, so I'm going big. Because this is about speed, I do not *ever* want it to<br></div><div>swap.<br>
</div><div>
<div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
> I wrote a little test program to try this out, and it fails. As a regular<br>
> user, perror() tells me some "resource is temporarily unavailable". As<br>
> root, it says it "cannot allocate memory". I'm only asking for 1 byte.<br>
<br>
</div><div>> where = mmap(NULL, length, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE |<br>
> MAP_ANONYMOUS | MAP_HUGETLB | MAP_LOCKED | MAP_POPULATE, -1, 0);<br>
<br>
</div>Remember that no matter what "length" you pass, even if it's 1 byte, the<br>
kernel has to allocate at least enough integer pages to cover the request.<br>
You ask for 4100 bytes, it has to allocate 2 pages because 4096 isn't<br>
quite big enough.<br>
<br>
And if you ask for MAP_HUGETLB, you're going to get at least 1 page. Which<br>
is probably 2M in size. And that can be painful if the default max lockable<br>
memory is less than 2M (at least on my Fedora Rawhide box, it's all of<br>
64K). There's also some interaction danger with MAP_POPULATE and memory<br>
fragmentation. But both POPULATE and HUGETLB have a high chance of<br>
not playing well with LOCKED.<br>
</blockquote></div></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Good catch. Indeed, removing MAP_HUGETLB allows the program to succeed. I'll try increasing the resource limit, but may have to have to sudo it, do the mmap() and then chusr to my real ID.<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">The fd of -1 that some folks thought might be a problem is suggested in the man page for use with MAP_ANONYMOUS. That flag means I'm not using a backing file, after all.<span><font color="#888888"><br clear="all">
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