<p dir="ltr">People. Can we continue the technical discussions on this list? I have no interest anymore in Nicks problems. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Take the discussions with Nick off list.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 6, 2014 8:46 PM, "Nick Krause" <<a href="mailto:xerofoify@gmail.com">xerofoify@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Lidza Louina <<a href="mailto:lidza.louina@gmail.com">lidza.louina@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I still highly recommend that you talk to someone.<br>
><br>
> Lidza<br>
><br>
> On Aug 6, 2014 2:33 PM, "Nick Krause" <<a href="mailto:xerofoify@gmail.com">xerofoify@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Lidza Louina <<a href="mailto:lidza.louina@gmail.com">lidza.louina@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> > Nick, stop sending patches and emails. Go talk to someone in real life,<br>
>> > have<br>
>> > them to look at the emails and talk to them about it.<br>
>> > Talk to someone that understands your communication style and can<br>
>> > explain<br>
>> > these things to you in a way that you can understand it. You are making<br>
>> > things worse by trying to contact people that you have annoyed.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Step away from the computer and talk to someone in real life because<br>
>> > none of<br>
>> > the emails and suggestions people have given seem to be helping you.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Lidza<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Aug 6, 2014 2:13 PM, "Nick Krause" <<a href="mailto:xerofoify@gmail.com">xerofoify@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Robert P. J. Day<br>
>> >> <<a href="mailto:rpjday@crashcourse.ca">rpjday@crashcourse.ca</a>><br>
>> >> wrote:<br>
>> >> > On Wed, 6 Aug 2014, <a href="mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu">Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu</a> wrote:<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> >> On Wed, 06 Aug 2014 10:48:14 +0100, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar said:<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> > oh man you have gained prominence in vger?<br>
>> >> >> > They have banned you from vger.<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> Wow. I've been around for a dozen years or so, and can't remember<br>
>> >> >> *that* ever happening before. That takes some *major* doing, and<br>
>> >> >> could take literally years to straighten out. How to approach that?<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > *sigh* ... the fact that nick has, *single-handedly*, pissed off<br>
>> >> > and<br>
>> >> > wasted the time of numerous subsystem maintainers to the point where<br>
>> >> > he has been banned from LKML and has, in addition, *single-handedly*<br>
>> >> > turned the kernel newbies mailing list into his personal self-help<br>
>> >> > playground means that he needs to be shown the door.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > i don't want to sound unsympathetic, but it doesn't *matter* if<br>
>> >> > this<br>
>> >> > is nick's fault or not -- he is, quite simply, a disruptive influence<br>
>> >> > and is, at the moment, turning this mailing list into chaos.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > people are asking, can he be salvaged? to which the proper answer<br>
>> >> > is, who cares? there are a *lot* of kernel newbies out there who<br>
>> >> > would<br>
>> >> > desperately like to get to the point where *they* can start<br>
>> >> > submitting<br>
>> >> > patches, and most of *those* people are willing to read and listen<br>
>> >> > and<br>
>> >> > follow the advice of the veterans to the point where they become<br>
>> >> > useful contributors. nick is not.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > it's massively ironic that countless people have told nick what he<br>
>> >> > should be doing, to which his inveitable response is, "ok, but what<br>
>> >> > should i be doing?"<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > if you want to help nick, knock yourself out but take it offline.<br>
>> >> > nick has already wasted far too much bandwidth that could have been<br>
>> >> > invested in helping newbies that are willing to *listen*.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > rday<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > --<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > ========================================================================<br>
>> >> > Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario,<br>
>> >> > CANADA<br>
>> >> > <a href="http://crashcourse.ca" target="_blank">http://crashcourse.ca</a><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Twitter:<br>
>> >> > <a href="http://twitter.com/rpjday" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/rpjday</a><br>
>> >> > LinkedIn:<br>
>> >> > <a href="http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday" target="_blank">http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday</a><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > ========================================================================<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Robert,<br>
>> >> I am trying to listen now and this was my fault.<br>
>> >> Regards Nick<br>
>> >><br>
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>> Lidza,<br>
>> I am fine here. I didn't listen and that is the key issue if people<br>
>> don't want to give me a second change that's<br>
>> fine.<br>
>> Cheers Nick<br>
Talk about what ? The issue is my listening.<br>
Cheers Nick<br>
<br>
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