<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>YESsssss !</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>With the occasion may I get some comments to the REAL_TECH question I asked above. The CPU throttling thingy :)</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div
 style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">Will be eternally indebted to the ONE who helps me to understand.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">Thanks in advance,</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">Stephan</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family:
 HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><br></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 11:54 AM, Kristofer Hallin &lt;kristofer.hallin@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br> </font> </div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">  <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv6064101112"><div><div dir="ltr">People. Can we continue the technical discussions on this list? I have no interest anymore in Nicks problems. </div>
<div dir="ltr">Take the discussions with Nick off list.</div>
<div class="yiv6064101112yqt0230106209" id="yiv6064101112yqt29287"><div class="yiv6064101112gmail_quote">On Aug 6, 2014 8:46 PM, "Nick Krause" &lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:xerofoify@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:xerofoify@gmail.com">xerofoify@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv6064101112gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Lidza Louina &lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:lidza.louina@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:lidza.louina@gmail.com">lidza.louina@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear="none">
&gt; I still highly recommend that you talk to someone.<br clear="none">
&gt;<br clear="none">
&gt; Lidza<br clear="none">
&gt;<br clear="none">
&gt; On Aug 6, 2014 2:33 PM, "Nick Krause" &lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:xerofoify@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:xerofoify@gmail.com">xerofoify@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Lidza Louina &lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:lidza.louina@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:lidza.louina@gmail.com">lidza.louina@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; wrote:<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt; Nick, stop sending patches and emails. Go talk to someone in real life,<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt; have<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt; them to look at the emails and talk to them about it.<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt; Talk to someone that understands your communication style and can<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt; explain<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt; these things to you in a way that you can understand it. You are making<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt; things worse by trying to contact people that you have annoyed.<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt; Step away from the computer and talk to someone in real life because<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt; none of<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt; the emails and suggestions people have given seem to be helping you.<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt; Lidza<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt; On Aug 6, 2014 2:13 PM, "Nick Krause" &lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:xerofoify@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:xerofoify@gmail.com">xerofoify@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Robert P. J. Day<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rpjday@crashcourse.ca" target="_blank" href="mailto:rpjday@crashcourse.ca">rpjday@crashcourse.ca</a>&gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; wrote:<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; On Wed, 6 Aug 2014, <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu">Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu</a> wrote:<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On Wed, 06 Aug 2014 10:48:14 +0100, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar said:<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; oh man you have gained prominence in vger?<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; They have banned you from vger.<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Wow. I've been around for a dozen years or so, and can't remember<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; *that* ever happening before. That takes some *major* doing, and<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; could take literally years to straighten out. &nbsp;How to approach that?<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &nbsp; *sigh* ... the fact that nick has, *single-handedly*, pissed off<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; and<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; wasted the time of numerous subsystem maintainers to the point where<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; he has been banned from LKML and has, in addition, *single-handedly*<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; turned the kernel newbies mailing list into his personal self-help<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; playground means that he needs to be shown the door.<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &nbsp; i don't want to sound unsympathetic, but it doesn't *matter* if<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; this<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; is nick's fault or not -- he is, quite simply, a disruptive influence<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; and is, at the moment, turning this mailing list into chaos.<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &nbsp; people are asking, can he be salvaged? to which the proper answer<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; is, who cares? there are a *lot* of kernel newbies out there who<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; would<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; desperately like to get to the point where *they* can start<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; submitting<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; patches, and most of *those* people are willing to read and listen<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; and<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; follow the advice of the veterans to the point where they become<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; useful contributors. nick is not.<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &nbsp; it's massively ironic that countless people have told nick what he<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; should be doing, to which his inveitable response is, "ok, but what<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; should i be doing?"<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &nbsp; if you want to help nick, knock yourself out but take it offline.<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; nick has already wasted far too much bandwidth that could have been<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; invested in helping newbies that are willing to *listen*.<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; rday<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; --<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; ========================================================================<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Robert P. J. Day &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Ottawa, Ontario,<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; CANADA<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://crashcourse.ca/">http://crashcourse.ca</a><br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Twitter:<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://twitter.com/rpjday">http://twitter.com/rpjday</a><br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; LinkedIn:<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday">http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday</a><br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; ========================================================================<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Robert,<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I am trying to listen now and this was my fault.<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Regards &nbsp;Nick<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Kernelnewbies mailing list<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org">Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org</a><br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies">http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies</a><br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; Lidza,<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; I am fine here. I didn't listen and that is the key issue if people<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; don't want to give me a second change that's<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; fine.<br clear="none">
&gt;&gt; Cheers Nick<br clear="none">
Talk about what ? The issue is my listening.<br clear="none">
Cheers Nick<br clear="none">
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